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      V.J. Rada issued a claim of error.

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Caller:                        Alexis

Judge:                         o
Judgement:                     FALSE

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History:

Called by Alexis:                                 01 Oct 2017 00:11:00
Assigned to o:                                    01 Oct 2017 19:13:24
Judged TRUE by o:                                 04 Oct 2017 01:16:28
Motion to Reconsider filed:                       04 Oct 2017 01:56:21
Judged FALSE by o:                                04 Oct 2017 01:56:21
Mooted:                                           07 Oct 2017 02:04:50
Remanded to o:                                    21 Oct 2017 23:20:33
Judged FALSE by o:                                24 Oct 2017 06:37:23

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Caller's Arguments:

VJ's message does not explain the scope and nature of the perceived error, 
as required by rule 2201 to make a claim of error.


Caller's Evidence:

    On Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 08:41 VJ Rada,  wrote:

        CoE this is bugging me.


        On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:39 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
        > I claim the reward of 5 shinies for this report. I transfer 2 shinies
        > to agora and 2 to the community chest.
        >
        > On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:38 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
        >> Coe the date of the last report was September 23.
        >>
        >> I accept my CoE and publish the following report of the ADoP.
        >>
        >> =====Metareport=====
        >> This report is effective as of the time of its publishing.
        >> Date of Last Report: 2017-09-23
        >> Consolidation (filled offices over officeholders): 2
        >> Filled offices %: 94.44
        >> Late reports %: 17.65
        >>
        >> Please do not call elections for every office thank you
        >>
        >> OFFICES
        >>
        >> Office            Holder        Since            Last Election  Can Elect[4]
        >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >> Arbitor            G.             2017-09-15   2017-09-14          Y
        >> Assessor                       2017-09-27   2017-09-28
        >> ADoP[1]          V.J. Rada  2017-06-05   2017-09-06          Y
        >> Herald             G.             2017-09-06   2017-09-06          Y
        >> Prime Minister VJ[2]         2017-09-13   2017-09-06         Y
        >> Promotor         Aris           2016-10-21   2017-09-14         Y
        >> Referee           o               2017-04-17   2017-09-14         Y
        >> Registrar         PSS[3]      2017-04-18   2017-09-14          Y
        >> Regkeepor       Aris           2017-07-06  2017-09-06          Y
        >> Reportor         天火狐        2017-08-10  2017-09-06         Y
        >> Rulekeepor      Gaelan      2017-05-17   2017-09-14         Y
        >> Secretary        o.              2016-11-06   2017-09-14         Y
        >> Speaker          Quazie       2017-08-26   2014-04-21        Never
        >> Superintendent V[2]          2017-09-28   2017-09-22
        >> Surveyor         o               2017-05-08   2017-09-14         Y
        >> Tailor              G.              2017-09-21   2017-09-28
        >> Agronimist      o.               2017-09-21   2017-09-14         Y
        >> Fearmongor    G.               2017-09-27  Never                 Y
        >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >> [1]Associate Director of Personnel
        >> [2]V.J. Rada
        >> [3]Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
        >> [4]Anyone may inititate elections for these positions without being
        >> the ADoP or 4 support.
        >>
        >> REPORTS
        >> Office          M[1]  Report                         Last Published     Late[2]
        >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >> ADoP[3]               Offices                        2017-09-24
        >> Herald             Y   Patent titles                 2017-09-04
        >> Promotor              Proposal pool               2017-09-25
        >> Referee                Rule violations              2017-09-26
        >> Registrar              Players, Fora                2017-09-24
        >> Registrar          Y  Player history               2017-09-04
        >> Regkeepor            Regulations                  2017-09-16
        >> Reportor               The Agoran Newspaper 2017-09-21            !
        >> Rulekeepor           Short Logical Ruleset    2017-09-29
        >> Rulekeepor       Y  Full Logical Ruleset      2017-08-25            ![5]
        >> Secretary             OLEBaS[4]                  2017-09-28
        >> Secretary         Y  Charters                      2017-09-02
        >> Superintendent      Agencies (incremental) 2017-09-27
        >> Superintendent  Y  Agencies (Full)            2017-09-27
        >> Surveyor               Estates                       2017-09-26
        >> Tailor                Y  Ribbons                      2017-08-24
        >> Agronomist           Farms                         Never
        >>      !!![6]
        >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >> [1] Monthly
        >> [2] ! = 1 period missed. !! = 2 periods missed. !!! = 3+ periods missed.
        >> [3] Associate Director of Personnel
        >> [4] Organizations, Lockout, Expenditure, Balances, and Shinies
        >> [5]I know that the Rulekeepor updated the FLR with the SLR, but e
        >> didn't post it separately to a public forum.
        >> [6]Paging o.: no news is some news.
        >>
        >>
        >> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:37 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
        >>> TTttPF
        >>>
        >>> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:36 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
        >>>> I accept PSS's CoE I publish the following report of the ADoP.
        >>>>
        >>>> =====Metareport=====
        >>>> This report is effective as of the time of its publishing.
        >>>> Date of Last Report: 2017-09-03
        >>>> Consolidation (filled offices over officeholders): 2
        >>>> Filled offices %: 94.44
        >>>> Late reports %: 17.65
        >>>>
        >>>> Please do not call elections for every office thank you
        >>>>
        >>>> OFFICES
        >>>>
        >>>> Office            Holder        Since            Last Election  Can Elect[4]
        >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >>>> Arbitor            G.             2017-09-15   2017-09-14          Y
        >>>> Assessor                       2017-09-27   2017-09-28
        >>>> ADoP[1]          V.J. Rada  2017-06-05   2017-09-06          Y
        >>>> Herald             G.             2017-09-06   2017-09-06          Y
        >>>> Prime Minister VJ[2]         2017-09-13   2017-09-06         Y
        >>>> Promotor         Aris           2016-10-21   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>> Referee           o               2017-04-17   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>> Registrar         PSS[3]      2017-04-18   2017-09-14          Y
        >>>> Regkeepor       Aris           2017-07-06  2017-09-06          Y
        >>>> Reportor         天火狐        2017-08-10  2017-09-06         Y
        >>>> Rulekeepor      Gaelan      2017-05-17   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>> Secretary        o.              2016-11-06   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>> Speaker          Quazie       2017-08-26   2014-04-21        Never
        >>>> Superintendent V[2]          2017-09-28   2017-09-22
        >>>> Surveyor         o               2017-05-08   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>> Tailor              G.              2017-09-21   2017-09-28
        >>>> Agronimist      o.               2017-09-21   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>> Fearmongor    G.               2017-09-27  Never                 Y
        >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >>>> [1]Associate Director of Personnel
        >>>> [2]V.J. Rada
        >>>> [3]Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
        >>>> [4]Anyone may inititate elections for these positions without being
        >>>> the ADoP or 4 support.
        >>>>
        >>>> REPORTS
        >>>> Office          M[1]  Report                         Last Published     Late[2]
        >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >>>> ADoP[3]               Offices                        2017-09-24
        >>>> Herald             Y   Patent titles                 2017-09-04
        >>>> Promotor              Proposal pool               2017-09-25
        >>>> Referee                Rule violations              2017-09-26
        >>>> Registrar              Players, Fora                2017-09-24
        >>>> Registrar          Y  Player history               2017-09-04
        >>>> Regkeepor            Regulations                  2017-09-16
        >>>> Reportor               The Agoran Newspaper 2017-09-21            !
        >>>> Rulekeepor           Short Logical Ruleset    2017-09-29
        >>>> Rulekeepor       Y  Full Logical Ruleset      2017-08-25            ![5]
        >>>> Secretary             OLEBaS[4]                  2017-09-28
        >>>> Secretary         Y  Charters                      2017-09-02
        >>>> Superintendent      Agencies (incremental) 2017-09-27
        >>>> Superintendent  Y  Agencies (Full)            2017-09-27
        >>>> Surveyor               Estates                       2017-09-26
        >>>> Tailor                Y  Ribbons                      2017-08-24
        >>>> Agronomist           Farms                         Never
        >>>>      !!![6]
        >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >>>> [1] Monthly
        >>>> [2] ! = 1 period missed. !! = 2 periods missed. !!! = 3+ periods missed.
        >>>> [3] Associate Director of Personnel
        >>>> [4] Organizations, Lockout, Expenditure, Balances, and Shinies
        >>>> [5]I know that the Rulekeepor updated the FLR with the SLR, but e
        >>>> didn't post it separately to a public forum.
        >>>> [6]Paging o.: no news is some news.
        >>>>
        >>>> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:22 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
        >>>>> I publish the following report of the ADoP.
        >>>>> Consolidation (filled offices over officeholders): 2
        >>>>> Filled offices %: 100 (woo!)
        >>>>> Late reports %: 17.65 (and none of them matter!)
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Please do not call elections for every office thank you
        >>>>>
        >>>>> OFFICES
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Office            Holder        Since            Last Election  Can Elect[4]
        >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >>>>> Arbitor            G.             2017-09-15   2017-09-14          Y
        >>>>> Assessor        Nichdel      2017-06-05   2017-09-28
        >>>>> ADoP[1]          V.J. Rada  2017-06-05   2017-09-06          Y
        >>>>> Herald             G.             2017-09-06   2017-09-06          Y
        >>>>> Prime Minister VJ[2]         2017-09-13   2017-09-06         Y
        >>>>> Promotor         Aris           2016-10-21   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>>> Referee           o               2017-04-17   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>>> Registrar         PSS[3]      2017-04-18   2017-09-14          Y
        >>>>> Regkeepor       Aris           2017-07-06  2017-09-06          Y
        >>>>> Reportor         天火狐        2017-08-10  2017-09-06         Y
        >>>>> Rulekeepor      Gaelan      2017-05-17   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>>> Secretary        o.              2016-11-06   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>>> Speaker          Quazie       2017-08-26   2014-04-21        Never
        >>>>> Superintendent V[2]          2017-09-28   2017-09-22
        >>>>> Surveyor         o               2017-05-08   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>>> Tailor              G.              2017-09-21   2017-09-28
        >>>>> Agronimist      o.               2017-09-21   2017-09-14         Y
        >>>>> Fearmongor    G.               2017-09-27  Never                 Y
        >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >>>>> [1]Associate Director of Personnel
        >>>>> [2]V.J. Rada
        >>>>> [3]Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
        >>>>> [4]Anyone may inititate elections for these positions without being
        >>>>> the ADoP or 4 support.
        >>>>>
        >>>>> REPORTS
        >>>>> Office          M[1]  Report                         Last Published     Late[2]
        >>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >>>>> ADoP[3]               Offices                        2017-09-24
        >>>>> Herald             Y   Patent titles                 2017-09-04
        >>>>> Promotor              Proposal pool               2017-09-25
        >>>>> Referee                Rule violations              2017-09-26
        >>>>> Registrar              Players, Fora                2017-09-24
        >>>>> Registrar          Y  Player history               2017-09-04
        >>>>> Regkeepor            Regulations                  2017-09-16
        >>>>> Reportor               The Agoran Newspaper 2017-09-21            !
        >>>>> Rulekeepor           Short Logical Ruleset    2017-09-29
        >>>>> Rulekeepor       Y  Full Logical Ruleset      2017-08-25            ![5]
        >>>>> Secretary             OLEBaS[4]                  2017-09-28
        >>>>> Secretary         Y  Charters                      2017-09-02
        >>>>> Superintendent      Agencies (incremental) 2017-09-27
        >>>>> Superintendent  Y  Agencies (Full)            2017-09-27
        >>>>> Surveyor               Estates                       2017-09-26
        >>>>> Tailor                Y  Ribbons                      2017-08-24
        >>>>> Agronomist           Farms                         Never
        >>>>>      !!![6]
        >>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >>>>> [1] Monthly
        >>>>> [2] ! = 1 period missed. !! = 2 periods missed. !!! = 3+ periods missed.
        >>>>> [3] Associate Director of Personnel
        >>>>> [4] Organizations, Lockout, Expenditure, Balances, and Shinies
        >>>>> [5]I know that the Rulekeepor updated the FLR with the SLR, but e
        >>>>> didn't post it separately to a public forum.
        >>>>> [6]Paging o.: no news is some news.
        >>>>> --
        >>>>> From V.J. Rada
        >>>>
        >>>>
        >>>>
        >>>> --
        >>>> From V.J. Rada
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> --
        >>> From V.J. Rada
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >> --
        >> From V.J. Rada
        >
        >
        >
        > --
        > From V.J. Rada



        --
        From V.J. Rada



-- 
From V.J. Rada

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Judge o's Arguments (initial):

I find this CFJ to be FALSE, following the caller’s arguments exactly. The
alleged claim of error was

> CoE this is bugging me.

Sent in response to an attempt to collect a report award, and without any 
trivially obvious error in either the reward attempt or the report, this is 
insufficient for a claim of error.


Arguments for calling a moot by V.J. Rada:

I would like to direct you to CFJ 3551 in which  you indirectly held
that "I COE this for no reason" was a valid CoE.


Judge o's Arguments (post-moot):

I find this CFJ to be FALSE, following the caller’s arguments exactly. The 
alleged claim of error was

> CoE this is bugging me.

Sent in response to an attempt to collect a report award, and without any 
trivially obvious error in either the reward attempt or the report, this is 
insufficient for a claim of error.

CFJ 3551 found that a claim of error such as "I CoE my Reportor's report for 
no reason” could allow a revision of that report to be published such that it 
fulfils a duty. This is an incidental finding at best - it is neither relevant 
to the matter at issue in that CFJ, nor consistent with the text of rule 2201. 
It should therefore not be taken as binding precedent on what constitutes a 
valid claim of error.

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