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==============================  CFJ 3291  ==============================

    When Pavitra published eir 16-Jan-13 Victory  Announcement, e
    satisfied the Victory Condition of Belligerence.

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Caller:                                 G.
Barred:                                 Pavitra

Judge:                                  Murphy
Judgement:                              FALSE

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History:

Called by G.:                           18 Jan 2013 21:24:51 GMT
Assigned to Murphy:                     09 Feb 2013 17:47:50 GMT
Judged FALSE by Murphy:                 09 Feb 2013 18:01:16 GMT

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Caller's Arguments:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 15:03 -0600, Pavitra wrote:
> > As each Slave Golem is an entity with zero Props, and zero is less than
> > nine, each Slave Golem is a Marine under the last sentence of R2376.
> >
> >
> > For each person other than myself (hereafter $PERSON), I do the following:
> > {
> >   I create 4*N Slave Golems in my possession named Soldier-$PERSON-1
> >   through Soldier-$PERSON-N, where N is the number of units that
> >   $PERSON owns.
> >
> >   For each of $PERSON's units, I cause four of SOLDIER-$PERSON-* to
> >   attack that unit.
> > }
> >
> > I destroy all Slave Golems created in this message.
> >
> > Victory Announcement: I satisfy the Victory Condition of Belligerence,
> > by owning at least one SCV while no other person owns any SCVs or Marines.
>
> This fails. You created persons during the message, and thus the message
> is either an infinitely long loop, or you didn't eliminate /all/ the
> persons' units.

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Gratuitous Arguments by woggle:

"Belligerence" states that units only cease to exist when their health
has been 0 for the past 48 hours. Pavitra's victory announcement was,
therefore, at least premature.

Also, some of Pavitra's attacks would attempt to decrease some units
health below 0. This is an impossible value for the health switch and
per R2162 would cause the health to reset to the default values.

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Gratuitous Arguments by woggle:

On 1/16/13 1:03 PM, Pavitra wrote:
> As each Slave Golem is an entity with zero Props, and zero is less than
> nine, each Slave Golem is a Marine under the last sentence of R2376.
>
>
> For each person other than myself (hereafter $PERSON), I do the following:
> {
>   I create 4*N Slave Golems in my possession named Soldier-$PERSON-1
>   through Soldier-$PERSON-N, where N is the number of units that
>   $PERSON owns.

This does not specify 4*N unique names.

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Judge Murphy's Arguments:

Per CFJ 3290, the rule "Belligerence" fails to effectively define
"marines".  (And even if that weren't the case, then woggle's arguments
would still be correct, though G.'s wouldn't because the golems created
for the scam would have N = 0.)

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