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==============================  CFJ 2944  ==============================

    The power of Rule 2324 is 3.


Caller:                                 Murphy
Barred:                                 omd

Judge:                                  Roujo

Judge:                                  ais523
Judgement:                              FALSE



Called by Murphy:                       22 Dec 2010 06:58:31 GMT
Assigned to Roujo:                      10 Jan 2011 01:02:25 GMT
Roujo recused:                          10 Jan 2011 19:27:07 GMT
Assigned to ais523:                     16 Jan 2011 22:08:01 GMT
Judged FALSE by ais523:                 23 Jan 2011 18:21:57 GMT


Caller's Evidence:

omd wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM, omd  wrote:
>> Accordingly, I intend, With Notice, to cause Rule 2324 to amend Rule
>> 2223 by appending the text: "Also, the power of Rule 2324 is set to
>> 2."
> With notice, I do so.
> The power of Rule 2324 is now 2, or 3 if the ratification scam already
> set it to 3.  (In that case, the victory rule attempts to set it to 2
> but fails due to power.)


Judge ais523's Arguments:

Two possible escalations to look at here.

First, the ratification issue. The whole issue of "unless otherwise
specified" is a tricky one; what counts as a sufficiently clear
specification? We have two implied specifications in rule 2202 (the
title, and the use of "without objection", which does not match a
template in rule , rather than "without objections" or "without N
objections" which would); and an explicit specification in the (at the
time) lower-powered rule 2324. However, this is obviously irrelevant;
the ruleset at the time states, at power 3 and taking precedence over
all other rules of power <= 3, that ratification without objection
cannot cause the mutation of a rule (and this presumably includes the
mostly direct but slightly indirect method omd tried to use). Thus, even
if the ratification happened (which is dubious), it wouldn't do

The other scam, an attempt to remove the AI of an Agoran Decision in
order to make it a different type of decision and auto-adopt it, is more
interesting. There's a timing issue here, though, in that as far as I
can tell, CFJ 2944 was called before the escalation is supposed to have
happened. Thus, although interesting, the escalation in question does
not change the judgement of this CFJ.