============================== CFJ 2583 ==============================
G. made a pledge in the above-quoted message.
Called by ais523: 14 Jun 2009 20:53:32 GMT
Assigned to Quazie: 17 Jun 2009 08:05:19 GMT
Quazie recused: 25 Jun 2009 15:45:53 GMT
Assigned to Wooble: 25 Jun 2009 15:46:57 GMT
Judged TRUE by Wooble: 01 Jul 2009 17:51:42 GMT
Is "If elected, I pledge" the same as "I pledge that, if
elected" (adjusting for grammar)? Arguably, this attempted pledge wasn't
created because it was an attempt to create a pledge in the future,
rather than agree to one now.
Gratuitous Arguments by G.:
Good question. Nothing slippery here, I intended this to be a pledge now,
but one that didn't have any effect on me if I was not elected. So I
don't know if this is a pledge now (that just doesn't constrain me yet,
except for not letting me cancel it until the next election) or not-
yet-a-pledge at all (so I can somehow cancel it at the last minute for
example). I intended the former. Or maybe it didn't work at all.
Gratuitous Arguments by Pavitra:
contracts, including pledges, generally don't require public
messages. It's possible to make a pledge to a-d, or by private email. If
G.'s intent was to make a pledge immediately, then that's probably what
Or does that not work anymore now that pledges are always public contracts?
Judge Wooble's Arguments:
G.'s intent is relevant in the creation of a primordial
agreement that e intended to be bound by under the rules of Agora, and
a reading of the statement in question as creating a pledge now that
imposes a future obligation if e is elected is a natural reading.