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==============================  CFJ 2200  ==============================

    This CFJ will exist one second from now.


Caller:                                 Machiavelli

Judge:                                  Sir Toby
Judgement:                              TRUE



Called by Machiavelli:                  28 Sep 2008 03:56:33 GMT
Assigned to Sir Toby:                   28 Sep 2008 22:22:06 GMT
Judged TRUE by Sir Toby:                04 Oct 2008 22:06:54 GMT


Caller's Arguments:

I argue for FALSE, as it would be useful for earlier parts of a
message to always take precedence over later parts, especially for
things like Normish, where we might want to have a disclaimer followed
by arbitrary text submitted by an untrusted user.


Caller's Evidence:

Disclaimer: The remainder of this message is not necessarily true.

I CFJ on the following statement: This CFJ will exist one second from now.

Disclaimer: The above disclaimer is not necessarily true. This
disclaimer takes precedence over the above disclaimer.


Judge Sir Toby's Arguments:

In looking up prior relevant judicial cases, this judge encountered CFJ
1971 (see evidence 1). CFJ 1971 was regarding whether or not game
actions can be taken given a specific disclaimer. The disclaimer read in
part, "Any statements in the above message are not necessarily true,
even if the message makes them appear to be so."

Goethe submitted the following arguments for CFJ 1971 (which judge
BobTHJ agreed with and solely used in judging the CFJ):

"It may be possible, but only if taking the 'attemped game action' in
question does not depend on the truth value of the statement, the truth
of any information contained within the statement, or the truth of
contextual information required to make the statement work. In
particular, it doesn't work if the action requires reporting or
announcing any kind of information (vote results, point scores, claim
denials, etc.), as the DISCLAIMER ensures that said 'reporting' contains
no information whatsoever on the truth of the information it purports to
report, and so doesn't actually report it."

Since the action taken by the caller of CFJ 2200 does not require
reporting or announcing any kind of information, the action of
initiating the CFJ succeeded. Having succeeded in initiating a CFJ, the
CFJ still exists 1 second after being initiated.


Judge Sir Toby's Evidence: