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==============================  CFJ 2133  ==============================

    ". The previous sentence is false." results in  being performed.


Caller:                                 ehird

Judge:                                  Wooble
Judgement:                              FALSE



Called by ehird:                        09 Aug 2008 23:03:34 GMT
Assigned to Wooble:                     15 Aug 2008 07:02:44 GMT
Judged FALSE by Wooble:                 15 Aug 2008 12:59:33 GMT


Caller's Arguments:

you can't change earlier things in a message later on
right? Something like that I believe is precedent.


Judge Wooble's Arguments:

I judge FALSE.  CFJ 1971 establishes that a disclaimer posted at the
end of the message CAN, in general, affect whether actions are taken
in the message in question.  In this decision, it was opined that if
the performance of the action in question was not dependent on the
truth of the statement initiating the action, then the action could
occur despite the disclaimer.

However, the goes back to the issue of whether performative utterances
in general are truth-evaluable. If they're not, then a mere claim that
"" is a false statement would be a lie, but not sufficient
to cause  to not occur.  If they are truth-evaluable, then
the claim that they're false constitutes a disclaimer that causes
 to fail.

It's my intuition (and the belief of John Searle) that speech acts
are, in fact, truth-evaluable.  However, it's not necessary to base my
ruling on this belief; at a minimum there is strong disagreement on
the truth-evaluability of speech acts, both in the philosophy
community and in the current group of players of Agora, and I hold
that this disagreement is sufficient to at least create ambiguity in
whether a person publishing the statement in question intends to cause
 to occur.  By Rule 478, a person publishing such a
statement does not perform such an action; to do so e must
unambiguously announce that e does so.


Gratuitous Arguments by G.:

Zefram's assertion that a speech act is only true the instant it is
performed means that "Speech act" followed by "The previous statement
is false" is not any kind of contradiction, as the speech act is
false at the instant the second sentence is made.

However, if the above CFJ is judged at the time when 2149 was in
place, Zefram's assertion is contradicted by the idea that "the
truth or falsity of the whole is what is significant."