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==============================  CFJ 1690  ==============================

    Prior to this CFJ, the results of Proposal 4977 were not challenged.


Caller:                                 G.

Judge:                                  Zefram
Judgement:                              TRUE



Called by G.:                           19 Jun 2007 21:46:54 GMT
Assigned to Zefram:                     27 Jun 2007 21:25:32 GMT
Judged TRUE by Zefram:                  28 Jun 2007 16:08:11 GMT


Caller's Evidence:

CFJ 1684 was called by root:
26 May 2007 03:10:06 GMT

Voting report including Proposal 4977:
30 May 2007 19:56:20 -0700

Rule 2034/2 excerpt:
      If the success of the resolution of an Agoran decision is not
      challenged within one week from the time the vote collector
      announces it, then the announced result is the true result of
      that decision, even if it would otherwise be in error.


Caller's Arguments:

The results of Proposal 4977 depended on the votes of a partnership
to have been adopted.  These results were not formally challenged within
one week of being posted.  By Rule 2034, these results should stand even
if the votes of the partnership are invalidated.  A counterargument
is that the ability of partnerships to vote in general were challenged
prior to the results, by CFJ 1684 (which had been called at the time).
However the court should reject this reasoning:  the strong need and intent
for pragmatic adoption of proposals should prevent us from retroactively
construing a challenge.  A challenge should be direct and specific to
a proposal, or at least specific to the precise votes being challenged,
to prevent the R2034 challenge limit clock from expiring.  It is not enough
to challenge a deeper point of law which has an implied, but not
explicitly stated or mentioned knock=on effect, otherwise the pragmatic
nature of the proposal protection system in R2034 is broken.  I urge a
judgment of TRUE.


Judge Zefram's Arguments:

(pseudo-judged by Murphy to avoid some conflicts of interest)

CFJ 1684 only questions the Pineapple Partnership's personhood
at the moment it was called.  Interpreting this as a challenge
to the resolution of Proposal 4977 relies on two separate chains
of implications:

  (1) PP is not a person
        -> PP is not a player (Rule 869)
        -> PP is not an eligible voter (Rule 106)
        -> PP's voting limit is zero (Rule 1950)
        -> PP's votes are invalid (Rule 1950)

  (2) These things were true when the CFJ were called
        -> These things were true at the start of Proposal 4977's
             voting period (when Rule 1950 measures voting limits)

I consider it in the best interests of the game to interpret that
Rule 2034 should not be triggered by something this indirect.  Since
no other challenges to the outcome of Proposal 4977 have been brought
to my attention, I judge CFJ 1690 TRUE.

I consider it sufficiently direct to identify an Agoran decision
individually or as part of a set (e.g. "Proposals 6000-14", "all
Proposals distributed during the past week").  I also consider any
of the following types of claim to be sufficiently direct:

  (a) "Proposal 6000 was rejected."
  (b) "Joe's vote on Proposal 6000 was invalid."
  (c) "Joe was ineligible to vote on Proposal 6000."
  (d) "There was no decision to resolve Proposal 6000."
  (e) "There was no Proposal 6000."