============================== CFJ 1615 ==============================
Zefram successfully called for judgement on or about Fri, 2 Feb 2007
Called by G.: 02 Feb 2007 17:34:51 GMT
Assigned to Sherlock: 21 Feb 2007 18:10:52 GMT
Judged TRUE by Sherlock: 28 Feb 2007 19:58:19 GMT
I, for one, never implied that pineapple-ness, etc. was exclusive
of being a person. However, in the message quoted below, Zefram implies
(by switching back to being a human) that e believed that, in deeming emself
to be an avocado, e was deeming emself to not be a person.
E also implied, by quoting a message about agreements, that e was
doing so as a binding agreement.
Therefore, by agreeing to be an avocado, e was consenting to not be considered
a person as a matter of Agoran law. In doing so, e lost the right to call a
CFJ (R101), and for that matter, to do what e wilt, so e lost the right to
make emself back into a person.
(By the way, e may be a player but not a person, registration makes
sure only people register, but when a person becomes a non-person
while registered, e remains a player...right?)
Rule 101/4 (Power=3)
Agoran Rights and Privileges
The rules may define persons as possessing specific rights or
privileges. Be it hereby proclaimed that no binding agreement
or interpretation of Agoran law may abridge, reduce, limit, or
remove a person's defined rights. A person's defined privileges
are assumed to exist in the absense of an explicit, binding
agreement to the contrary. This rule takes precedence over any
rule which would allow restrictions of a person's rights or
i. Every person has the privilege of doing what e wilt.
ii. Every player has the right to perform an action which is
iii. Every person has the right to invoke judgement, appeal a
judgement, and to initiate an appeal on a sentencing or
judicial order binding em.
iv. Every person has the right to refuse to become party to
a binding agreement. The absense of a person's explicit,
willful consent shall be considered a refusal.
v. Every person has the right to not be considered bound by
an agreement, or an amendment to an agreement, which e has
not had the reasonable opportunity to review.
vi. Every player has the right of participation in the fora.
vii. Every person has the right to not be penalized more than
once for any single action or inaction.
viii. Every player besides the Speaker has the right to
deregister rather than continue to play.
Please treat Agora right good forever.
Message in question:
Kerim Aydin wrote:
> There's another argument that might apply to properties of
> persons (e.g. being a pineapple). R101(iv) says that it takes
> explicit, willful consent to agree to anything. Anything
> not regulated is not part of the agreement that is the
> Rules. So at the time of the CFJ, Zefram hadn't agreed to be a pineapple.
So if I did agree to such deeming, would it be effective?
I hereby deem myself to be an avocado.
I hereby Call for Judgement on the statement "Zefram is an avocado".
I hereby deem myself to be a human.
Judge Sherlock's Arguments:
Zefram believed emself an avocado,
A ridiculous belief of sheer bravado,
But e was never anything so green,
As anyone who saw his picture would've seen,
Therefore TRUE, or they'd run me out of Colorado!