How To Tell The President The Facts
A panel discussion at JSM 2003, San Francisco
Co-sponsored by ASA Section on Statistics and the Environment, ASA
Section on Statistical Consulting, and the International Environmetric
Society
Chair: Peter Guttorp, University of Washington
Panelists: Sally Morton, RAND
Gerald Van Belle, University of Washington
Thomas Permutt, US FDA
Haiganoush Preisler, USDA Forest Service
Adrián Fernández, Instituto Nacional de Ecología,
Mexico
After a brief introduction by the
chair, the panelists each gave short presentations.
Sally Morton described how she
told the Secretary of Health and Human Services the facts about
Ephedra. Ephedra is a naturopathic substance, and not classified as a
drug. Rand performed a meta-analysis of the literature.The result of
presenting the study to the Secretary was a ban on advertising the
drug, and a warning label reguirement.
Sally's advice:
- Focus on a small number of conlusions, and support sith
strong analyses
- Anticipate who will focus on which conclusions
- THERE IS ONLY ONE CHANCE
- Beware of–yet accept–better yet use the anecdote
Gerald Van Belle gave
a short (fictitious) presentation intended for the US President on air
pollution issues related to ships. There were no numbers on the slides,
just in the spoken presentation. He then continued to discuss the
concept of "mandated science", i.e. the intersection of science,
policy, and values. In the example the science was the effect of air
pollution, the policy dealt with the Latino population, and the values
had to do with social justice. The US EPA uses the risk assess,emt
paradigm: hazard identrification, dose-response, and risk assessment
combine to produce risk management. There is a hierarchy consisting of
data, information, knowledge and finally wisdom. Wisdom is to know the
truth and act accordingly.
Thomas Permutt emphasized that we cannot duck the science quality
questions: that is our responsibility. All science is wrong. The
question is really how wrong. In order to communicate results we must
understand not only the client's language, but also the client's job.
It is important to have opinions. There are scientific opinions, and
opinions on value and policy. We must be able to distinguish them, but
we need to have both kinds. Influential colleagues work in the center
of the mandated science Venn diagram.
Haiganoush Preisler advocated
whenever possible to say it with pictures. GAM output is graphical,
thus easy to explain, even though the model may be complicated both to
write down and to fit. Standard errors on a graph really can help.
Color graphs are useful, but use at most three colors. Detailed
interpretation of variables are not always very important.
Adrián Fernández
described a major policy issue in Mexico, where serious problems with
ozone and particulate matter were caused by lax automobile exhaust
standards. The 1994 Mexico standards were similar to the 1981 US
standards, and Mexico City today is similar to Los ANgeles 30 years
ago. The key issue was to deal with new automobiles, but the industry
was opposed to stringent standards. In order to get around the
opposition, two strategies were used: the ministry proposed a two year
exemption to emission inspections in return for adherence to standards
later, and the message was sent to the auto manufacturers through
newspaper channels (leaks). The responsibility of advocacy is important.
After the presentations, the
panelists each got to respond to the others.
Sally: Where do you draw the line for the responsibility of advocacy?
Gerald: Passion is important. We need advocacy with objectivity.
Thomas: The mandated science intersection is a tremendously exciting
place to be. It is important to understand the things about which we
are objective and those about which we are passionate. To play the game
well, we need to be seriously involved.
Haiganoush: Keep it simple. We are well equipped to do this. Not one of
us used the word "uncertainty".
Adrián: Without stretching the facts we need to help
policymakers by being very clear. Be courageous, take chances,
participate in public debates!
The floor was now opened to questions
and discussion.
What do you do when decisionmakers
want a particular answer from you?
Sally: You need to be precise about what you know.
Thomas: You need to build up a relationship over time. Then you can use
it im such situations.
How are you passionate?
Adrian: Be passionate about not letting the government twist the facts.
Work with media (leaks), NGOs etc.
What do you do when there is alot of
uncertainty, but the issue is still one that needs action?
Gerald: That is when you need wisdom.
Peter: There are different philosophies in different countries. For
example, in Sweden one tends to follow the precautionary principle,
while in the US actions tend to require proof.
Adrián: One needs to develop cost-effective waus to reduce risk.
Is it our job to lay out options, or
to lay out options and say that we prefer one?
Thomas: We nedd to lay out consequences of the options (with
uncertainty).
Public comments can sometimes allow
non-scientific findings the same weight as scientific comments. How do
you reply to the non-scientific statements? Should public opinion be
peer reviewed?
Gerald: In this country debated tends to be adversarial.
We have a social contract with this country to do science, and have
certain responsibilities associated with that. Even when we feel it is
a waste of our time.
Would it sometimes help to have
different analyses of the same problem?
Thomas: We often operate in that mode. Both sides report to the same
advisory committee. This can often make the issue clearer. It is not
always adversary–the statisticians on both sides can work together to
make clear what there is agreement on.
Adriån: The PM health effect reanalysis issue in the US is a case
in point. It is always useful to have more analyses.
Organizational climate has a lot to do
with how much a statement is listened to.
Sally: In the Ephedrin case it was very important that the group that
made the study did not have ties to alternative medicine.
Gerald: HEI was paid by EPA and the auomotive industry to create a
scientific institute acceptable to both. It has an external review
process that helps to solidify this acceptability.
Thomas: Yes, the reputation of a government group is very important.
That is why it is so important to participate in the policy making.