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Class notes from 10\19\2010 by
Bridget Sexauer
Hoby Douglass of General Biodies=
el
- Lives in a van down by the river and has a sweet
mustache
- His company has two main objectives:
- Waste collection (from restaurants and malls…=
;)
- biofuel conversion
· =
Biggest export is to China but <=
span
class=3DSpellE>Hobie here disagrees with the energy required to expo=
rt it
overseas just for cheap feedstock
Marketing position #1: low carbon
fuel
- Electricity is great if you ignore the environmental
effects
- Electricity is really cheap and hard to compete wit=
h
- A byproduct of biofuel =
is
glycerin which can be used in the cosmetics industry in the future once
they are able to purify it to meet quality specifications=
span>
- They sold their glycerin to an anaerobic digester up
north, if they can get $1 M reactor? or som=
ething
they can further process that glycerin and sell it.<=
/li>
GreenPartner program member
Microsoft is testing biodiesel in
fleet vehicles, started with B5 (shuttle connector vans)<=
/p>
· =
Omg no one told me Tom Selleck =
was
speaking today
Stan Barns =
Bioalgene,
CEO and founder of
- They look at third generation of more of algae
(biodiesel being second generation)
- Strategic program is to grow more algae, raise $20
million to begin 10 sites with industrial partners=
li>
- Algae can be selectively chosen so it is not necess=
ary
to genetically modify them
- Like Al Gore, algae grow fast and get real fat
(…? direct quote, I think)
- Can fly biofuels in pla=
nes,
this type is 2% lighter AND 2% more powerful wow, Boeing is
interested…
- 600MW coal fired power plant in Boardman, Oregon
- Let them clean up coal exhaust=
Took
exhaust and fed it to algae to make fuel
- They gave them a plot with a lake which was gravity=
fed
with cow poo
- convert 50m tons CO2 to ?? tons of jet fuel
- Cement manufacturers heat limestone to get lyme for cement which gives CO2 byproduct, so th=
ey can
use their algae to clean that up too
=
- Algae is a toxic problem in some areas (toxic bloom=
s)
which is hard to get rid of so they offer the solution of capturing th=
at
algae and making fuel out of it
- They just require a pond to grow the algae in, CO2 emissions which is abundant in most processing
facilities as exhaust, and the end product is a usable fuel.
Everyone wins!
- Legislation tightens their scrutiny on these busine=
sses
which is good for these guys because they offer a way to make use of t=
heir
exhaust without them having to change anything about what they do, kind of a passive way to be environmentally
proactive but it’s cool because it’s hugely beneficial to
everyone.
Questi=
ons
·
These businesses are largely legislation driven; they work on=
the
fact that pressures exist on industry to be more environmentally conscious =
and
that they offer a solution for them. If that pressure did not exist,
there would be no incentive to collaborate with these guys.
·
There are still businesses that charge to pick up oil from
restaurants! Hoby does it for free. “It’s like an
asteroid landed and no one knows about it”
·
Hoby: He’s not interested
until Microsoft tells him he’s interested, now Microsoft’s tell=
ing
him he’s interested. (on reluctance of food
service guy)
·
Hoby: Once you know, you
can’t unknow. B=
rilliant.
Don’t feign ignorance people
·
Its better to have that relationship with the small busines=
ses,
it has intrinsic value, we own that relationship. (on
why they still cater to the small guys)
·
What they are trying to do here is change the model with wha=
t is
a waste product. The stuff we throw away bounces back and affects the
water and air. Almost all waste is a resource that just hasn’t =
been
thought of yet. It’s good business.
·
Low sulfur diesel isn’t as
good for engines as full sulfur, and biodiesel barely has any so to composi=
te
for that well it doesn’t have a direct replacement but biodiesel is a
cleanser so your engine is sparkly clean when you open up. Biodiesel =
is
basically exactly like a clean pore strip but instead of for your face
it’s for your filthy engine.
·
Algae has all the ingredients of
petroleum plus proteins and other crap which is why it is best to make in l=
arge
quantities so those byproducts can be sold.
·
How much does your business depe=
nd
on legislation? Hoby: if all Americans knew that we give tax
credits/breaks to the exxons etc they would be =
more
upset….. let’s not build a business
that’s based on taxpayer credit, let’s build a business that is
self sustaining and if we get a tax credit let’s call ourselves lucky=
.
·
What is the value of carbon credits and how sensitive are we=
to
it? American value $4/ton, euro is $14/ton. Credits are a small element, they don’t build their business model o=
n non
self sustaining factors. Hoby: RIN 5c-50c =3D administrative hassle t=
hat is
a silly pretend thing.
·
What is the projected yield for algae fuel? 500M tons =
CO2
=3D 100M tons. DOE to replace half of fuel consum=
ption
with alternative fuels by 2016.
·
Many fleets have been mandated to replace a percentage of fu=
el
with renewables, which is a result of legislati=
ve
action. This includes ferries.
·
“Energy
lobbyists have so much influence when compared to little gnats like us.R=
21; – Hoby <3
·
Energy lobbyists =3D devil<=
/o:p>
·
Seed stock =
vs
feed stock? Google it.
·
Take away: we are now in the inf=
ancy
of alternative fuel integration into the grid and into our cars. Now =
is
the time to hop on, start a business in alternative fuels, work for a compa=
ny,
be a scientist and develop these technologies further, invent new ways to
convert/derive/use these technologies.
·
We are going to run out of petroleum. The sky is blu=
e.
·
Europeans don’t like
GMO’s but we may need to delve into that but we won’t do it unl=
ess
we can get organisms that are not toxic or pose any kind of threat to their
environments.
·
What are some important issues that students should look at?
&nb=
sp; =
“LCA!!” (life
cycle analysis) – Stan, “I mak=
e a
difference!” – Hoby, “I don’t actually live in a van
down by the river” - Hoby
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